Ian Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 @Noddy Will West Mids being giving you non-destructive door entry kit or are you effecting entry with the enforcer? Link to comment
Matt Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Humberside have some new kind of lock breaker they use to save taking the door down. They do a lot of assist ambulance now to gain entry and various people I have spoken to rate this new kit. Not seen it yet for myself yet though. Link to comment
Cardiff_Fire Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 If it's the lock snapper, (looks like a metal bar with a hollow cut out for lock barrel at one end in a plastic case) then we have them on the run here. Good bit of kit, easy to use. We're not doing gaining entry for ambo as yet and I've not heard it mooted for us (probably means we'll be doing it next tour!) Link to comment
Carl Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 We've done all the training on this and seen the kit, however our FRS have said they won't be funding it. If the local authorities don't want to pay for damaged to doors made by Door Rams, then they are going have to stump up for them. Please Note: Most of us know which bit of kit this is, but may be worth keeping the details basic due to the nature. 1 Link to comment
Becile Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Also the plastic lock slips-similar to credit card but more flexible Link to comment
Ian Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 I was down in Hampshire recently and they have a great set of kit including Mica cards,Lock snapper, door shovel amongst a few bits more. All on the run in a decent bag for about £85! Bearing in mind we have already attended around 400 of these calls since the NY it should save a fortune in boarding up costs? Link to comment
Becile Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Yep, that's the ones- good kit and saves lots of damage. Link to comment
Landy01 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Here in Queensland we've got a sledge hammer, halligan and axe Link to comment
Noddy Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Good question I don't know mate. Not being on the trucks I am out of the loop now. 1 Link to comment
JonFromTheLFB Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 London have a crows foot hydraulic tool, enforcer, pry bar, halligan and a rubber hammer. This makes up our forced entry kit and is actually pretty good... Unless you're on a two pump station... And it's stowed on the pump ladder... And they send the pump to all calls like lock outs and assist ambulance with entry! 1 Link to comment
BurtMacklin Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 That's always annoyed me, it's such simple, relatively low cost equipment that it should be carried on all the trucks including FRU's. 1 Link to comment
JonFromTheLFB Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I think it's always annoyed and frustrated lots of people! Link to comment
LiamG Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 7 hours ago, BurtMacklin said: That's always annoyed me, it's such simple, relatively low cost equipment that it should be carried on all the trucks including FRU's. It annoys me that all front line trucks don't carry a full size hooly tool. They're so so useful. Link to comment
Noddy Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hooligan on all appliances here Link to comment
Becile Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I think one day you London boys will have to play like the rest of us and have all the kit on the trucks rather than sticking certain things on certain pumps...it's the way forward don't ya know, a full toolkit rather than half - awaits incoming ? Oh no wait- you don't own the trucks do you. Link to comment
JonFromTheLFB Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 We never play like the rest of you lot... It would make life so much easier if we did... And where is the fun in that? Link to comment
SteelCity Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Shropshire just all been issued with the new kit including lock snapper, lock slipper etc and a new mini ram. All appliances carry full size hooligan bars along with crow bars etc. 1 Link to comment
Andy252 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I'm a locksmith by trade. I'm hoping if and when I get in I can help teach some entry techniques to whatever brigade I join. I'm always attending a jobs where the FRS have been first. It's a nightmare repairing the damage. It must be costing a fortune? Link to comment
Noddy Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Andy your skills will be invaluable mate 1 Link to comment
Andy252 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 @Noddy I can imagine, I've been asked by a friend who's a CM at West Mids to teach his watch on basic lock picking when the covid situation slows down. But regarding lock snappers etc. They're only good if you have a good grip on the lock, fitted incorrectly, and it's not got any security features, With the rise of high security and 3 stars locks about, Its pretty useless anyway. Most 3 stars I have the dedicated picks. 9 times out of 10 I can open ultions in less than 30 seconds. Which is equal to the time of setting that snapper thing up 😆 Link to comment
Carl Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Guys, can we have a common sense approach to this thread please. Not sure detailing on a public forum how we carry out this task is professional. Ive had to delete a few already. Before anyone comes and says it's all over the internet anyway, and already in the public domain, that's fine, but don't be putting this sites name to any of it please. Link to comment
WTTJ Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I've always found it amazing the stuff people have in their personal kit. We've only got the sledge/hooli option, or the tool box, so come a gain access, everyone has their own little tools. I carry bump keys, some invest in personal lock snappers, others have door slips etc etc. Link to comment
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